June 14, 2007
This was year two for the New York State Geospatial
Summit and organizers presented another thought provoking,
eye-opening event. Speakers highlighted topics around the edges of what
"heads down" GIS professionals do, and from the feedback I heard, that
was a most welcome change and a breath of fresh air.
To be fair, the air in Skaneateles (pronounced "skinny-atlas"), New
York was quite fresh already. The town name means "long lake" and it is
located in the Finger Lakes region of the state. The event attendees
had free rein over the rustic, two-level, water-adjacent Welch-Allyn
Lodge. Welch-Allyn makes medical equipment next door and makes the
space available to the community.
The pre-event on Thursday evening featured Dr. Richard Luli of The Climate Project, Al
Gore's team of folks spreading the word on his "Inconvenient Truth"
story. Luli talked through some 160 slides that captivated even those
who had read the book or seen the movie. This group of well-educated,
attentive people was stunned silent when this "regular guy" (his PhD is
not in climate studies) offered up the evidence for global warming. I
came away thinking this is one of those talks you need to hear
regularly, like the ones about metadata and eating right.
I want to share some thoughts on the "further from GIS" talks that were
presented during the plenary session on Friday.
Derrick Crandall is president and CEO of the American Recreation Coalition,
a non-profit group that wants to get people outdoors. As such the group
does research, keeps an eye on legislation, and tries to get out the
message of encouraging "fun outdoors." Crandall shared a challenge that
hits close to home with technologists: getting kids to recreate outside
of the 6.5 hours a typical sixth-grader spends in front of a screen
(TV, computer, iPod…). The research is fascinating. Kids, it turns out,
are well aware of why they congregate in fast food places - there are
triggers (like signs on the highway) that lure them there and allow
them to network with others. If there were similar triggers for outdoor
activities, perhaps they'd make those choices. Crandall explained how
groups pushing the outdoors need to use the triggers that get to young
people: text messaging, MySpace and the like. He also noted that at one
time technology was seen as the enemy of outdoor activity. Now, he
said, the goal is to make it a "friend." In fact, a study done with
young people involving a treasure hunt was rated much higher when it
involved GPS than when it did not.
Erin Aigner, a graphics editor for the New York Times,
considers herself a cartographer. She showed many examples of her work
for the Times and recounted many of the same challenges in
creating maps for the paper and website that we face: getting data,
getting things done on a deadline and the disappointment when a final
product is not used. She did offer praise for the Web: it means not
just maps, but full color maps, are available even if they are not in
the paper.
Ok, now back to GIS. Michael Jones, CTO of Google Earth, wrapped up the
event, as he did last year. Jones does a remarkable job of weaving
together commentary on the state of geo in the world and Google's plans
and place therein. He observed that what we geogeeks think is
interesting about geospatial technologies is quite different from what
the general public considers interesting. Angelina
Jolie recently tattooed her arm with the locations of the birth
places of her four children. She felt that was important. Perhaps
equally interesting, an online publication in Europe, I believe,
actually posted Google Maps of those locations! That may seem silly and
unimportant to us, but clearly it's not to Jolie. Jones cited other
examples of individuals worldwide modeling structures of importance to
them in SketchUp and posting them to the 3D Warehouse for use in Google
Earth. Again, those places, those buildings and monuments are important
to them.
Jones was kind enough to provide a sneak preview of something no one
outside of Google had seen: books in Google Earth. Recall that
Google has scanned in text of many out-of-copyright books (and others)
and performed character recognition to create searchable text. Now, the
company has taken it one step further and posted locations found in
some of those texts (the demo showed only publicly available ones if I
recall correctly) to Google Earth. When you click on a placemark you
jump to the book's page and to the exact page on which the location
information was found. You also find a Google Map of all the places
mentioned in the book.
Back on Google Earth, there's a timeline slider so that you can see
books "pop up" as you move through time. And, if many books cite the
same location (Chicago, say), Google Earth cleverly arranges a subset
in an orderly circle around the city to avoid clutter. I have to say I
felt a bit vindicated because my presentation earlier in the day
highlighted the coming importance of time in online mapping solutions,
as well as the Google Experimental (part of Google Labs) "Map View"
technology for locating results of Google searches on a map.
Perhaps even more interesting to me than Jones' formal presentation was
the question period. Don Cooke addressed a previous speaker’s
excitement over Second Life, asking if Google was heading into that
sort of space. No, Jones explained, "we are trying to build the first
life." Another questioner referred to the recurring news stories about
Google "censoring" imagery. Jones replied that Google has not done
this. (That's something the company continues to say but which, alas,
prompts all sorts of news stories.) He did note that after some
requests the company did "roll back" some imagery of Iraq; somehow that
seems to fall into a different category.
Jones did note that other portals address the "censorship" issue
differently. In the Netherlands, they don't block out areas of concern,
but rather take trees from other areas and use them to fill the areas
of concern. France's GeoPortail simply plops a white blob over such
areas.
Another question had to do with licensing, in particular, the
difference between using Google Earth for personal and professional
reasons. Jones made it clear that the license "was not about where you
install the software, but how you use it." For example, if the boss
asks you to create a map for a presentation, that'd be professional. If
you were at work but looking for a car dealership at which to buy a new
car for the family, that'd be personal use.
Jones also addressed, perhaps for my benefit, the brouhaha over the
number of Google Earth users he cited at Where 2.0 and in his
presentation at the Summit. He had offered up 200,000,000 and noted
that number was larger than the populations of some counties, including
Brazil. Now, some folks writing on the matter got all up in knots about
how that measure of downloads could not be correct because with a new
version of the software coming out regularly, most of us have
downloaded Google Earth multiple times. Jones explained to the group at
Skaneateles that, in fact, the download mechanism codes by IP address,
so if you download several times from the same IP address, it still
counts as one download. And, of course, not everyone downloads the
software; some get it on a CD from a friend or by other means.
I again applaud conference organizers for an event that made all those
in attendance think differently not only about the technology that
brings us together, but about what we do with it out in the world.
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| I've seen Michael's talk on the subject of Google Earth downloads, and while it makes for great press (every blogger and news outlet uses it consistently), it's extremely misleading. Like Second Life, most Google Earth users I know download the application to check it out, and when it doesn't do anything meaningful for them beyond curiosity, home finding, science or education, they simply delete it. Since most users on the internet today do not have static IP addresses, they will count as a completely new download 3 months later when the new version comes out. Now, at least Second Life is honest about the actual number of users who have used the system in the last 30/60/90 days (http://news.com.com/Counting+the+real+Second+Life+population/2100-1043_3-6146943.html). That would be a more relevant statistic to cite for actual adoption. How about it Adena - think you could dig this up? |
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| Hi Jim, When we (Google) say "downloads" we mean "downloads from Google." Admittedly, that overlooks post-download installer sharing, independently-hosted download sites (which we discourage), school-system Windows Management Console deployments and the like, so interpreting our download number as an exact count would be misleading as it considerably undercounts the truth. When we say "installations" we mean "first installation on the client computer" AND "first installation from client computer's IP address." This doubly cautious count, of which there have been more then 200M to date, is the number I cite most often. Cases that fail either clause of the AND are termed "upgrades" and counted separately. When we cite numbers we say "more than" and do that based on a policy of systematic conservatism. When we say "more than," the scale of our "more" easily accounts for those few cases where people install, remove, wipe their registry settings, and then install again from a different IP address. Very easily as matter of fact. When you assert that my statements are extremely misleading, I respectfully suggest that you've not asked enough questions to support your accusation. Hopefully the information above informs your reservations and eases your mind. Best regards, Michael |
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| Michael - thanks for the detailed response. However, I still don't believe it answers the fundamental question of how many active users there are. In recent press and blog accounts, there have been statements to the effect that there are more Google Earth "users" than there are residents of certain countries. I know you have not made these statments, as you have actually refuted them along with the erroneously attributed XP SP2 downloads claim. My contention is simply the delineation of "downloads" versus "active users" which would be a better indication of the total number of people a person can reach by developing for the Google Earth application. I'd personally also like to learn this from the NASA World Wind community as well as Microsoft's Virtual Earth, but nobody seems to share actual usage data for people to guide their customers on the best way to reach their targeted audience. I guess downloads at least give SOME indication of users, but I think you'd agree they !=. Do you actually track active users that hit your servers every day? Why not share that number instead? Thanks again for the response and candor. |
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| You are not alone in being curious about the number of active users across various time scales--per second, minute, hour, day, week, and month. Our competitors are constantly after this as are those who seek our rate of growth to guess at corporate financial performance. Since neither of these activities benefits our users or investors, and might (somehow) be construed to offer guidance contrary to various laws, we protect activity data as company confidential. It would please me to answer your question officially from our minutely-measured data, but I cannot do so. However, you can do an easy experiment. Ask your taxi driver, or the people next to you in a queue, if they use Google Maps or Google Earth. I do this anonymously when I travel. The answers, be they in Hyderabad, Tokyo, or upstate New York--taken over time--tell the story you seek. |
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